The Rise Of Fiscal Dominance In 2024 & Beyond | Lyn Alden


Market Overemphasis on Rate Changes

  • The market is overly focused on small rate cuts or hikes and their timing.
  • A more significant variable to consider is fiscal policy.
  • Unemployment could rise to 5%, and some areas of the economy might look recessionary while others remain strong.

Introduction and Sponsor Mention

  • The episode is sponsored by Mont, a compliance-focused financial institution.
  • The host expresses excitement about the guest’s work and the opportunity to connect.

Muted Rate Hiking Cycle

  • The U.S. has more fixed-rate debt compared to other countries, making rate hikes less impactful.
  • Smaller markets like small businesses and commercial real estate were more affected by rate hikes.
  • The U.S. federal government has a shorter average debt duration, leading to higher interest expenses and deficits.

Potential Muted Rate Cutting Cycle

  • Future rate cuts may not be very stimulatory due to the lack of high-rate debt to refinance.
  • The market is overemphasizing the importance of small rate cuts or hikes.

Economic Slowdown

  • High rates are starting to impact the private sector, especially weaker areas.
  • Unemployment and continuing claims are rising, indicating a softening labor market.
  • Consumer spending is softening, particularly among higher-income individuals.

Divergent Fiscal and Monetary Policies

  • The U.S. is experiencing divergent fiscal and monetary policies, with high deficits and high interest rates.
  • Different sectors are impacted differently based on their exposure to fiscal deficits or short-duration debt.

Recession Improbability

  • A recession seems unlikely due to high fiscal deficits.
  • Fiscal austerity could potentially lead to a recession.
  • Recessions in emerging markets often look different, with ongoing growth but inflationary pressures.

Real vs. Nominal Economic Performance

  • The U.S. could experience a recession in real terms while nominal GDP remains decent.
  • Unemployment could rise, and some areas might look recessionary on a real basis.

Economic Conditions and Market Impact

  • The economy is experiencing fiscal dominance and large deficits.
  • Energy prices and housing affordability are significant concerns.
  • Unemployment could rise to 5%, potentially leading to a recessionary environment in some sectors.
  • Despite these issues, nominal GDP might still appear decent.
  • Upcoming Fed rate cuts are expected, with a 100% probability for September.
  • Market rotations from tech to small caps have been observed, influenced by floating rate debt.

Market Predictions and Investment Strategies

  • Small caps and cyclicals might receive support during a stagflationary period.
  • High-quality banks are trading at low earnings multiples due to anticipated credit losses.
  • Midcaps and value-oriented large caps are preferred for rotation trades over small caps.
  • Mild Fed rate cuts are expected to have limited impact on the majority of the economy.

Fiscal Policy and Election Impact

  • Fiscal policy will be crucial in the next year, influenced by election outcomes.
  • Fiscal dominance is seen as a spectrum, with the US entering it around 2017-2018.
  • Deficits as a percentage of GDP have been increasing even during economic expansions.
  • Interest rates no longer offset high public debt, leading to a fiscal spiral.

Tokenization and Blockchain

  • Mantra is a compliance-focused L1 blockchain onboarding financial institutions into web 3.
  • Mantra is among the top four RWA projects on CoinGecko.
  • The blockchain uses Cosmos SDK and offers IBC interoperability and CosmWasm smart contracts.

Fiscal Dominance Definition and Measurement

  • Fiscal dominance is defined by large structural deficits compared to private sector debt issuance.
  • The US has been in fiscal dominance since around 2017, with Japan being further into it.
  • High public debt levels were previously offset by falling interest rates, which is no longer the case.

Election Outcomes and Policy Implications

  • Potential tax cuts or hikes are a focus, with corporate tax cuts being permanent and individual cuts set to expire by 2025.
  • Election outcomes will influence the likelihood of tax cuts being extended or expiring.
  • Larger deficits and lower taxes could exacerbate fiscal dominance.
  • The Republican party is currently more favorable towards digital assets, which could impact regulation.

Political Influence on Regulation and Trade

  • Younger senators and representatives from both parties are more open to embracing new financial policies.
  • Regulation and views on trade tariffs and currency differentials can be influenced by the political party in power.
  • A second Trump term might see a more aggressive approach to tariffs and currency policies.

Trump’s Stance on Bitcoin

  • Trump has shifted to a pro-crypto and pro-Bitcoin stance.
  • There are rumors that Trump might announce a policy to buy Bitcoin as a strategic reserve asset.
  • The concept of a reserve asset is different from a reserve currency.

Current Reserve Asset System

  • Historically, countries held gold as a reserve asset and issued currency against it.
  • In the modern era, US Treasury securities have replaced gold as the primary reserve asset.
  • Countries use reserve assets to protect their currencies during times of weakness or to keep their currencies weak for competitive advantages.

US Reserve Assets and Potential Policies

  • The US has low exchange reserves relative to its economy, mostly in gold.
  • The US could strategically devalue the dollar by accumulating reserve assets.
  • There are rumors that the US might add Bitcoin as a reserve asset, which would be an unusual policy.

Bitcoin as a Reserve Asset

  • Developed markets holding Bitcoin as a reserve asset would be a significant milestone.
  • Bitcoin’s supply growth is lower than gold, making it an attractive asset.
  • The potential for the US to hold Bitcoin could remove some of the tail risks associated with it, making it more valuable.

Bitcoin and the US Dollar

  • Bitcoin proponents are often accused of being anti-dollar, but holding Bitcoin could complement the dollar.
  • The current structure of the dollar system benefits certain sectors like government and Wall Street but may harm manufacturing.
  • There is a case to be made that the dollar’s reserve status is de-industrializing the US manufacturing capability.

Dollar Reserve Status and De-industrialization

  • The dollar reserve status may be de-industrializing U.S. manufacturing capabilities.
  • Benefits of the current dollar system are not evenly distributed; government and Wall Street benefit more than manufacturing and defense sectors.
  • De-industrialization affects national security and supply chains.

Pro and Anti-Dollar Sentiments

  • Arguments against the dollar often stem from its association with U.S. power or its impact on the industrial base.
  • Pro-America narratives may embrace Bitcoin as an alternative to the dollar.

Crypto and Bitcoin Mining

  • Positive views on Bitcoin mining and retaining crypto assets could become more prevalent.
  • Upcoming events like Permissionless 3 in Salt Lake City highlight the growing interest in the crypto scene.

Oil and Energy Markets

  • A decade of underinvestment in energy has led to higher oil prices.
  • Trump’s ‘drill baby drill’ policy aims to increase domestic oil production.
  • Biden’s administration has not been as anti-energy as expected due to inflation concerns.

Economic Factors in Oil Production

  • Economic viability is a key factor in oil drilling decisions.
  • Offshore oil production is expected to make a comeback over the next decade.

Investment Strategies in Energy

  • Investing in oil companies is generally favorable, but spreading jurisdictional exposure is recommended.
  • Republican administrations may reduce tail risks like windfall taxes for U.S. energy companies.

Natural Gas and Export Facilities

  • Increased export capacity for U.S. natural gas could narrow the price spread between domestic and foreign markets.
  • Republican administrations may be more favorable to greenlighting export facilities.

Strategic Petroleum Reserve

  • The Strategic Petroleum Reserve has been politicized and used as an economic tool rather than a last-resort reserve.
  • The reserve is currently low, limiting its capacity to influence the market in the near future.

Energy Market and Strategic Reserves

  • The reduction in strategic reserves has limited capacity for future use.
  • This reduction is seen as a bullish catalyst for energy markets.
  • Previous semi-bull markets in energy were muted by the drawdown of reserves.

Inflation and Asset Classes

  • The speaker is constructive on the oil and energy space, indicating a view of higher inflation.
  • Long-duration treasuries are seen as a secular bear market due to volatility and low return potential.
  • A three-pillar portfolio is recommended: stocks, shorter-duration bonds and cash, and hard assets like energy producers, gold, and Bitcoin.

Copper and EV Market

  • Long-term bullish on copper due to construction and development in emerging markets.
  • EV adoption is expected to continue globally, even if the US slows down.
  • The speaker is less bullish on EVs compared to others, focusing more on dense energy sources like oil, uranium, and natural gas.

Nuclear and Uranium Market

  • Long on uranium since 2020, with significant performance.
  • Utilities are expected to increase uranium inventories.
  • Small nuclear reactors present an interesting potential.
  • Uranium is seen as a non-correlated, long-term investment.

Conclusion and Contact Information

  • The speaker’s work can be found at lal.com and in the book ‘Broken Money’ available on Amazon.

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